33rd America's Cup - Day 6: Challenger of Record
Update, Saturday, 6:35pm Sunday's race will be postponed by at least 2 hours. No start will be given before noon. The race committee will provide further information on Sunday morning, 9am
The opening race of the 33rd America's Cup was so one-sided that it leaves little to talk about. The wing is the weapon, as Ernesto Bertarelli stated in yesterday's press conference and as a result, why not run a poll about who will be the Chellenger of Record if BMW Oracle becomes tomorrow the Defender of the 34th America's Cup.
So, who do you think will be signing with Larry Ellison a new protocol on Sunday afternoon onboard the Rising Sun in Valencia?
1. Artemis Racing / Torbjorn Tornqvist, representing the Royal Swedish Yacht Club
2. Equipo Telefonica / Pedro Campos, representing the Real Club Náutico de Valencia
3. Mascalzone Latino AUDI Team / Vincenzo Onorato, representing the Club Nautico Roma
4. Santa Clauss Challenge, representing the Royal North Pole Yacht Club (Larry Ellison's CNEV)
Labels: 33rd America's Cup, BMW Oracle, Larry Ellison, Valencia
27 Comments:
Mascalzone, obviously!
The swedish team. In all wars around the globe, swedish people are involved to solve the problems. Why not America´s Cup?!?
Mascalzone Latino, by all means
alinghi are still doing their penalty turn--------
COA?
how about TNZ or Team Origin?
Mascalzone
Since it is rumoured they want to use the RC44 (Russell is obviously getting good royalties from the boat), I suspect it will be Artemis or the Santa Claus Challenge.
However, Santa can only race from 1 May to 1 November, ruling out a Southern Hemisphere venue. He is a little busy for the rest of November and December, and resting in January.
1. Artemis Racing / Torbjorn Tornqvist, representing the Royal Swedish Yacht Club
Russell Coutts is close buddys with the billionaire Tornqvist.
I feel a new EB/LE relationship coming on, with RC leaving to join Artemis on the future.
Mascalzone. Onorato have been always with Larry against Alinghi and now it is supported by Audi (and BMW will grat that). I do not suppose that the next AC will be in RC44 (too small boats and have already a circuit). The only hope left is that will be again in Valencia and not in San Francisco.
Santa Clauss Challenge, representing the Royal North Pole Yacht Club (Larry Ellison's CNEV)
iberdrola and the CNEV, again jejeje
The most ironic is that everyone seems to believe that Oracle will have a fair and square protocol giving equal chances to all challengers.
They'll show up with the most unfair protocl ever. Making sure that They'll keep the cup forever. Some poodle Mascalzone or Artemis will sign "yes sir" to RC and nobody will have a minor chance of beeing competitive.
The irony is that Ehman's bullshit talk will make the world think that they'll have a fair protocol...
Anarchy Challenge!
Has anyone seen Dalton in Valencia?
Mascalzone for shure
Coutts and Cayard who is also involved in Artemis have been talking about a joint project for years. So I'm guessing Artemis and at least with Cayard involved there will be no accepting dodgey protocols which is how the current mess evolved.
to 7:30 PM
the best way to judge the next protocol, is to see if LV will be involved again as they were in the past.
anything else is just personal opinion
7:30 PM - you know what? Just your opinion, right?
We don't know what GGYC will do if/when they win. Many hope there will be changes to a independent management for the race management side of the event. That input from all the challengers probably in some sort of commission or maybe a tie in with the WSTA.
For sure if GGYC wins, LV will be back in some way. Whether LVWS becomes the ACTS who knows but there are more opportunities for the AC without 1 single person trying to call the AC there own like EB has tried.
Time will tell but there has been enough legal findings to get folks to think about a AC for all.
Btw on the legal front many expect now that GGYC will push ahead with CIC and their BOFD so for the future what has happen under SNG watch is never repeated in the AC and sailing.
Well, 7:30, maybe you are right. For sure, BOR won´t break the rules. Mostly, the Cup was never "fair". That´s how it is! BOR will be DoG - complained. Anything else, we will see...
Funny this poll should come up.
An i the only one that noticed this.
But Alinghi took over the old +39 base for more room. The old +39 base has been re branded with Green comm the ITA YC that wanted to join in with the 33rd cup that we all think (and good chance are) in EB's pocket.
If you ask me this was all setting up for a CNEV all over again if Alinghi win.
God help us if they do.
CR should be Orgin or ETNZ or some team that we all respect and know will be fair. The AC can not survive another 2 year court battle.
Well that my 2 cents.
to 9:54 PM
either +39 or GreenComm are not YCs but teams. GreenComm's YC is CVG from Garda Lake. Not a Deed compliant YC if I remember correctly
9:54 PM
+ 1
Though I would love to Pre-Determine the End Results of AC-33, We still have 1(one) or 2(two) races to go. Harold's decision to do an A.P. is another great call by the Race Committee. Know matter how I feel about the strength or weakness of USA-17(BMWORACLE) or Alinghi, the fact remains it has to be settled on the Race Course. The Triangle (still one of my Favorite Courses, along with a Pre-Set Olympic Circle) will be a Test for Wind and Angles. Alinghi will be comming in from the Favored Side! Wind is suppose to be about 6-8 and changing directions. I hope the owners put the crews on board, that have been doing the testing and practices. Yup, Larry, Ernesto, Russell, watch from the Support Boats!
On the Subject of Challenge Clubs, I would Support Mascalone if and when USA-17 wins. Friends are Friends, but Mr Cayards separation from BMWORACLE was NOT on the BEST terms. LE's intentions for 34, if based on the fight for 33, I would hope for Boats, Event, Terms, Rules, Participants would be a Transparent, HONEST, Fair and the best racing we have ever seen for an AC!
MLatino. Who look alike go together. Both BOR and ML are thiefs.
I have heard rumours of Artemis in the case of GGYC winning, or Green.com in the case of Alinghi.
As a New Zealander I would be in favour of ETNZ.
it's going to be ETNZ thats why GD is lurking round in Europe at the moment and who do you thinks has been proping up ETNZ all this time?? Uncle Larry!! It will be one of Daltons last jobs before he leaves ETNZ.
Pierre why would you not put ETNZ or Origin in the poll?
Very unexpectedly poor form from Valencia Sailing.
I believe that LE is an advocate of our sport. Russell and JK are sportsman first employees last.
The sport of sailing is bigger than all of us. The next cup regatta should be sailed in boats built by Buddy Melges, the length should be around 53'.
Disposable boats are wrong, durable heirlooms that will last generations is what our future sailors deserve.
This deed is in your hands.... make us proud.
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